Go Commentary: Lee Sedol vs Gu Li – Jubango – Game 1

This was the first game of the MLily Gu vs Lee Jubango, played between Gu Li 9p and Lee Sedol 9p on January 26, 2014.

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Lee Sedol 9 dan plays the first game of his jubango with Gu Li.

This event will almost certainly be the most popular and exciting match of 2014.

Top two

These two players have been the top two in the world over the last 10 years, and their head to head record before the match stood at 17-1-16 in Gu Li’s favor (with one draw).

Among those 34 official games, there have already been many exciting and spectacular contests between these two players.

Gu Li and Lee Sedol in good form

Even though they both lost in the finals of international tournaments in 2013, They both took domestic titles just before starting this match in 2014.

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Gu Li 9 dan has been making serious preparations for this match and recently won the Longxing Cup in China.

Internationally, in 2013, Gu Li was defeated by Mi Yuting 9p in the 1st MLily Cup final and Lee Sedol was defeated by Chen Yaoye 9p and Tang Weixing 9p in the 9th Chunlan Cup and 2013 Samsung Cup finals respectively.

However, in January 2014, in China, Gu Li won the 5th Longxing tournament, defeating Li Zhe 6p in the final. Meanwhile, in Korea, Lee Sedol won the 32nd KBS Cup, defeating Park Junghwan 9p.

Closely matched

It’s very hard to guess who will win this jubango, but it’s surely a special gift for Go fans to be able to watch these two play a series of high quality games together.

A Go book about this match

Over the last few years, many readers have emailed us and suggested that we should publish a Go book of my game commentaries.

We’ve been too busy to do so up until now, but this match is special, so we’ve decided that our first Go book will be about Lee Sedol and Gu Li’s jubango.

In order to make the book special, we’ll add extended discussion on the opening of each game and modern fuseki, as well as extra variations to make the games understandable to players of all levels. So the book will contain even more commentary than you usually see in my game commentaries on our website.

Help us to make the book as good as possible!

Please help us to make our first Go book as good as possible. There are several ways you can help us to improve the commentary below:

  1. Ask questions about the game – if anything is unclear, please let us know so we can explain it better!
  2. Point out any mistakes, even minor typos – our first draft is below, because this is going to be a book, even small mistakes need to be fixed.
  3. Help us come up with a great name! The first thing we came up with was Inimitable: Gu Li vs Lee Sedol – unfortunately, we think it sounds too much like Invincible. Your suggestions are most welcome and if we choose to use the name you come up with, I’ll send you a signed copy of the first edition.
  4. Tell your friends and ask them to help too.

We appreciate all your help and hope that we’ll be able to make a great book together. Here’s the official page for the Lee Sedol vs Gu Li Go book.

Now let’s have a look at the game!

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Translations

Lee Sedol vs Gu Li – Game 1

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About Younggil An

Younggil is an 8 dan professional Go player with the Korean Baduk Association. He won the 'Prize of Victory of the Year' in 1998 for winning 18 consecutive pro games. After completing compulsory military service, Younggil left Korea to teach and promote the game Go overseas. Younggil now runs Younggil's Go School in Sydney, Australia and writes at Go Game Guru. You can find Younggil on Google+ and follow Go Game Guru on Facebook, Google+ or Twitter.

Comments

  1. Every day I came here to check and I’m so happy now you made this commentary. I will study it over and over again and come up with some questions.

    I already started an analysis on the elementary level of basic haengma at Sensei’s Library. In the early moves, two issues stand out:
    W20: it seems unworthy to discuss the hane at the outside of the attachment, presumably because Black will cut the white stones in a favourable way through what we know as a “small gap”.
    W22: hane at the head is natural, and for me the answer is not trivial (I assume G6).

    I’ll return to study now :)

    • Younggil An says:

      Thanks for your opinion and question.
      If white hanes for W22, B D5, W C5, B E5, W C4, and then jump out with G7. This variation seems to be better for black compare to the actual game.

  2. can you please explain the endgame move 209. why black don’t just hane in sente but play here instead? thankyou

    • Younggil An says:

      It’s Lee’s style of play. Just hane on the first line is easy, but he might have thought that the placement was better than the hane. Eventually, white needs to play one more move at the end, so black didn’t lose any points with the move 209.

  3. Good luck with making a book :D
    What do you guys think about the title: Master of Go: Gu Li vs Lee Sedol?

  4. That was suppose to be Masters, not Master. Sorry!

  5. If d5 was good for B, can W play move 22 at d5?

    also, I heard W should have played h5 instead of k7.

    • Younggil An says:

      If white plays at D5 for W22, black will hane at E2, W D2, B E4, W D3, and black will attach at G6. Black can come out to the center easily, so white didn’t connect at D5 I think.
      Thanks for the idea about the move K7.

  6. FrenchDude says:

    Move 25 variations 2-2-2, “Gu may disliked this sort of development.” should be “Gu may have disliked..” or “Gu may dislike…”.

    Move 52 Variations 3-1-2-2-1-1-1-1-2
    “Simply bulging here is a more powerful than it looks. Now A and B are miai for Black.”
    Should be either “a more powerful move” or just “is more powerful”.

    Only typos I’ve found so far but haven’t yet read the whole thing. Hope you’ll manage to find where I meant.
    Thanks for the detailed commentary!

  7. Missing word? move 138 “This tesuji was a very [clever?] counter.” Thanks for the commentary.

  8. For the book title: “(Glorious) Gladiadors of Go” – a reference to GGG :)

    Alternatives:
    - Binary stars (of Go)
    - A perfect match
    - The modern warriors

  9. variation C at move 99 -> move 101, you should say atari at B is sente I suppose.
    Thanks for the commentary.

  10. Now I’ll be thinking about Go Book names all day. Excited to hear about your new book!

  11. Drew Heath says:

    It is too early to seek a name for your book. Give the jubango your full attention. Once it is over the most appropriate name will be self-evident.

    After all, Shusaku wasn’t born “Invincible”.

    • David Ormerod says:

      Good point Drew, I think you may be right. We’ll wait to see what happens in the match and we’ll come back and look at peoples’ suggestions on this page later on. Thanks.

  12. If you make this a book you may want to reconsider comments such as for move 28, “This hane was a mistake.” Why is it a mistake? What should he have done instead? How did his opponent take advantage of it?

    • See the variations which explain why it was a mistake. (Maybe you downloaded the sgf and used a viewer which doesn’t show variations).

  13. I echo Drew Heath in saying that the best title may suggest itself over the course of the jubango as we see the character of the competition take shape. Right now we have only tasted, at most, one sixth of full meal. (And I very much hope it is not just a sixth!)

    But if I had to come up with suggestions, they might be along these lines:

    * Twenty-First Century Jubango: Gu Li vs Lee Sedol
    * Titans: Gu Li vs Lee Sedol
    * Two Legacies: Gu Li vs Lee Sedol
    * Entwined Legacies: Gu Li vs. Lee Sedol
    * Bound Together: Gu Li vs. Lee Sedol

  14. “Fated: the Gu Li vs Lee Sedol Jubango”

  15. Thank you for your great comment! Even after replaying the game a few times it stays exciting.

    If the start of the game was good for white without finding a mistake by black, should one question the micro Chinese? Instead of 7. me3, 7. d2 or k3 or k4?

    The title of the book should simply be Gu Li – Lee Sedol Jubango 2014, or Lee Sedol – Gu Li Jubango 2014: winner mentioned first.

    Kind regards,
    Paul

    • Younggil An says:

      Thanks for your opinion Paul.
      I don’t think the Micro Chinese was wrong, but maybe it’s no good against Gu Li. :)

  16. I am Very happy with the notice of the book! I was one of the people who insisted here many times with the idea of a book of you.
    Maybe the best tittle would be simple but strong: “Gu Li vs Lee Sedol:the jubango”.
    And with a smaller letter something like:” a modern perspective of the fuseki….”. Anyway, I would wait for the winning before to chose a good tittle, because the result of the series would be influential.

  17. “Modern Masters: Lee Sedol vs. Gu Li”
    Commentaries of their 10-match series

  18. Cheers for this. These commentaries are very useful for us weaker players trying to make sesnse of such games. To me, your variations regarding the direction of play were especially helpful.

    Just a heads up: I think there’s a word missing in your commentary at move 138.

  19. Please name the book “Two guys, one board: Gu vs Sedol”

  20. David Kerschner says:

    Why is the hane at F2 a mistake?

  21. Could be something like:

    “Jubango. The inevitable greatness.”

    a proper name for book?

  22. Hi,
    Thank you for your excellent game commentary, Mr. Younggil An! Im really looking forward for your match book :-)

    “A Jubangu in the 21 century”
    would be my idea for the book title, because of Go Seigens great book “A way of play in the 21st century” :-)

  23. If you include beginner-level commentary on the opening, could you also include beginner-level commentary on the endgame in one of the jubango games? It seems hard to find thorough commentary on endgame anywhere…

    Thanks for all your commentaries, I will definitely buy your book ;)

    • I agree that commentaries often lose some enthusiasm when getting to the endgame, presumably because this is common ground for professionals. I do think that the endgame is the biggest determinator for amateur games beyond the beginner level (where big groups inadvertently die). Most amateurs still take a strong interest in the opening and middle game fighting and treat the endgame as rather dull. So I think this request by Tristan is both unique and genuine. Your commentaries are beautiful and thorough but we amateurs need some inspiration and brushing up of endgame techniques as well.

      • David Kerschner says:

        Generally, I find endgame very dull. To be really good at it you have to be good at counting. And accurate counting is mind numbing. That’s probably why there is little commentary on it directly. It’s all just “What is this worth vs that? Is this sente?”

      • A book about Yose has been released in France. But not by pro players (Dai Junfu and Motoki Noguchi, who are 8/7d EGF I think) and will surely not be translated.

        But maybe this will give some ideas to some english pro players !

    • Younggil An says:

      Thanks for your opinion. Yes, that’d be a good idea, I’ll consider of that. :)

    • Hi Tristan,
      i like your idea very much! The endgtame ist treated really stepmotherly :-)

  24. neilwilson says:

    Move 138
    This tesuji was a very counter.

    Sorry but I have no idea what you were trying to say.

  25. How about a short title? Just “Jubango”.

  26. Title idea: “Jugoban of the 21st Century: Lee Sedol vs Gu Li”

  27. Leo Dorst says:

    Facing Off: Gu Li vs Lee Sedol

  28. At move 71 I have no idea why this move made the game easy for black. For reference, I am a 7kyu on KGS.

    • Hi,

      I’m not sure I will be able to explain it clearly, because it’s not that clear for myself but as none answered you, I will try :

      First, you have to notice, you never want to run alone, because if it would be the case, your opponent would take control of the game and you would be forced to follow his plan. Not really a good news if you want to win a game of Go …

      In that case black 71 takes away white eyeshape and also helps 2 black stones (l8-l7) which is urgent because there’re cutting stones. As black 2 stones become stronger, white needs to take care quickly of his weak groups.
      Black gained corner while white was taking care of bottom group. Then he used the white eyeshape problem of center group + white bottom weakness (not totally alive) to make a very strong wall and so he tooks the control of the game because he can choose game direction (so helping his weak group and making points on left, etc.)

      Notice 71 also threats black k8. After black k8, white can only plays h8 letting black the opportunity to connect at h7.

      The “this move made the game easy for black” commentary is about white has no choice but to follow black plan.

      Hope it helped a bit.

  29. Max Latey says:

    As the two strongest players of this century so far, how about:

    21st Century Go: Gu vs Sedol

    Similar to one of the suggestions above :-)

  30. José Fidel says:

    What about “Reborn: 21st century Jubango, Gu Li vs Lee Sedol

  31. Irresistible : Gu Li vs Lee Sedol

  32. I’m really looking forward to the book on this Jubango. I had one book (can’t recall it’s title now) wherein the two players commented on their own and each other’s moves as the games proceeded, but loaned it to someone and never got it back. It was my very favorite book, and I learned a lot from it.

    Commentaries are very important to me and the other two players in this rural area, with no advanced teachers and games available. So, our gratitude is extended for making an effort to publish this book. I especially like the idea that you are asking for questions and input. It will probably make it a very interesting approach to writing and editing.

  33. Great commentary. A true labor of love.
    The only mistake you made, was asking for help with the title.

  34. Haha. I second Stefan’s previous comment – the titles have been getting more and more outrageous (in the best kind of way), almost as entertaining as the commentary itself.

    Looking forward to the book – spare no expense! The book is an important step for this site.

  35. On commentary for move 19, first branch for white, where you give a line black which ends with black playing h6 and you say “this is a relatively simple continuation for black and the result is reasonable” I do not understand if black is treating the f3-4 & 5 stones lightly (which seems to me at least give white a big corner) or if black has a way of saving those three stones. Thanks. Apologies for the clearly kyu level question.

    • SGirousse says:

      Hi Doug,

      If you mean white plays the nobi to cut black stones (G4) please notice black has a precious liberty and so he can atari (h4 – g3 – h3) and after that black simply f2, then he is winning the fight by one liberty (the precious one :))

      Also if for some reasons black already invaded white corner and black lost his extra liberty, he can simply sacrifice the 3 stones.

  36. Point of English (this is trivial) move 37 was a good unexpected move, not an unexpectedly good move. We expect players like Lee Sedol and Gu Li to play phenomenal moves.

  37. Why couldn’t White cut at A after 23?

    • Younggil An says:

      If white cuts at A after 23, black would extend at C5, and there’re many weaknesses you’ll see. White should connect at F5 afterwards, then black can hane at D8, and white would be in trouble.

  38. James Acres says:

    For the title, I suggest “Resolution – Lee Sedol and Gu Li”.

    Great titles are like go moves, they have many meanings. Resolution has several.

    First, and most obvious, the whole point of the jubango is to decide the question “who is the dominant player of the era?” And so Resolution is a succinct and powerful way of summing up the spirit of the jubango.

    But Resolution can also be understood as the defining character trait which has brought Gu Li and Lee Sedol all the way to this definitive match. And it can also be understood as a description the deep resolution to win both will be consumed by throughout the year.

    Youngil, you said that your first impulse Inimitable. But that it was too close to Invincible. Still, I’m guessing you want something that reminds us of Invincible. Because that’s a book about the defining matches of an era, just like this jubango could be.

    And so Resolution has the same summary power and brevity over its subject matter that Invincible does. And by invoking the memory of Invincible without parroting it, you put everyone on notice that THIS is a substantial book!

    Finally, I’m guessing you want this book to be something special, like Invincible.

    Because really, because of the subject matter and the tremendous care that went into it, Invincible stands alone at the summit of the english go canon.

    A great work on this jubango would certainly earn its place next to Invincible at the summit. And as a 9dan we all know that the resolution to get to the top is something that burns inside you.

    And so Resolution would be a great working title for you. Because it would embody the spirit with which you need to approach the work to reach the summit. And it will remind you of the true goal during all the lonely, weary day between here and the top.

    • Younggil An says:

      Thanks a lot James, for your kind suggestion and explanation about the whole issues.
      I’ll seriously consider of those things. Thanks!

    • David Ormerod says:

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts James. Even if we don’t end up using your title, your ideas are helpful.

  39. “Jubango : Gu Li vs Lee Sedol”

  40. Would this book be available as e-book?

  41. “21st Century jubango”
    “Clash of legends”

    Will buy it for sure!

  42. john nicholas says:

    I really look forward to this book. It can sit next to Go seigen and shusaku’s games. Will it be possible to get sgf’s of the games? Whilst i love books, navigating games is infinitley easier on a computer whilst playing the main game out on a goban.

  43. It might not be a good idea to have “jubango” in the title as John Fairbairn says it’s an inappropriate choice of word and he’s knowledgeable about Go history and terminology. Then again the sponsors seem to be calling it one…

    • David Kerschner says:

      What’s wrong with it?

    • David Ormerod says:

      We talked about this too, within GGG, and I thought about emailing John late last year, to ask his opinion on the term ‘jubango’. I saw his comment here some time ago: http://senseis.xmp.net/?KamakuraJubango and I wanted hear what he thought the problem was.

      However, we were too busy throughout December and January (in a good way) and I didn’t get a chance to ask him before the first game. We reached a decision by ourselves.

      Reading John’s comment from your link above, as well as his comments on Sensei’s Library, I get the feeling he just doesn’t like the term ‘jubango’ in general, and wants people to say 10 game match instead. In other words, it doesn’t seem like his objection is really that specific to this match.

      However, jubango is already widely used in other Go books – including Invincible – and we decided the term was reasonably well known, in the same way that imported terms like hane, tesuji and joseki are. Should we make up new words for those terms too? I seem to recall that when Bob Terry tried to use the phrase ‘skillful finesse’ instead of tesuji, people didn’t like that either. For people who don’t know what certain terms mean, a quick explanation will do.

      There are also practical considerations. For example, ’10 game match’ is really quite long compared to ‘jubango’. That might not seem like a big deal, but it matters when you have limited space for headlines and you’re trying to report Go news in the age of twitter. ’10 game match’ also lacks any sense of being special or exciting.

      Then we also have the added complexity that 十番棋 can be read as shifanqi or sipbeongi (in Chinese or Korean), but what’s the point when jubango is already fairly well known and is simply the Japanese reading of the same characters?

      I haven’t heard anything saying whether the uchikomi rule is in play or not, but that seems like a red herring. Lee did use that rule in his jubango against the two North American pros (2012-13). I’d imagine that it simply wasn’t discussed for this match because, firstly the sponsor knows these two are quite closely matched, secondly they may not have wanted to offend the players (just my guess) and finally we have the komi rule now (which has, to some extent, made the uchikomi system obsolete).

      The official title of the event is: MLily梦百合世纪之战古李十番棋 – which literally means: MLily Battle of the Century Gu – Lee Jubango. In other words, the word ‘jubango’ is actually in the official name of the event.

      No matter what we do in this situation, someone will be unhappy about it. That’s just the nature of running a site like this. We made a practical decision so we could get on with posting news and commentaries about this exciting event. The jubango discussion really is a bit of a sideshow in comparison.

      • Uber​dude says:

        Yeah it does seem rather like a pet peeve of J.F’s! I just wanted to make sure you made an informed and considered decision which it appears you have.

  44. Charlie H (2D) says:

    Lee vs Li: Nemesis

  45. mateoxx59 says:

    Title: Twin Peaks Jubango: Gu Li vs Lee Seedol
    Suggestions:
    1) use HE for black and SHE for white in the text. I saw that in other commented games and it works
    2) you could use the japanese words like: atari, boshi, hane, nobi, tenuki as verbs too ! Like in the verbs may, can, need which DO NOT have a final ‘S’ for he or she.
    Example:
    - he hane AND NOT black plays hane or worse black hanes
    - she atari AND NOT white plays atari or worse white ataris
    And please, do not forget, we are mostly NON native english speakers :)

    • Younggil An says:

      I also thought about those issues with David. We’ll use ‘he’ and ‘she’, but we’ll think more about the verbs you mentioned.
      Thanks a lot for your ideas! :)

      • Using “she” when talking about a known player who is male looks silly to me. I would wince every time I read it.

        • Also “he hane” is objectionable to me (a native English speaker) whilst “he plays hane” or “he hanes” is ok, though the later is a bit of a cludge and some people might not like it in the more formal setting of a book.

        • Younggil An says:

          Yes, in this case, ‘she’ might sound a bit weird. Thanks for your correction. :)

    • David Ormerod says:

      In general, at Go Game Guru, we do use ‘he’ and ‘she’ when referring to Black and White respectively. I think it helps to provide an additional hint to the reader about who we’re talking about, as well as following tradition.

      However, we only do so for lessons where there aren’t actual players. So we do it for Baduk TV lessons and other lessons that we’re working on at the moment, but we don’t do so for commentaries, because, as Uberdude points out, it sounds too strange to refer to the player who holds white as a woman, in cases where he isn’t.

      Also, we try to be practical and write in a way that flows well, instead of always being technically correct when using words from several different languages in the same sentence. This is especially important when working on subtitles, because you need to convey information very concisely.

      English is a language with many imported words, different roots and inconsistent grammar rules. It’s also in a constant state of flux. That’s both a strength and a weakness. If a word like ‘atari’ is going to be imported into English, then it really needs to be able to be verbed, because, in English, practically all words that are used in the way atari is can be verbed. This means that it really becomes an English word (of Japanese origin), instead of a Japanese word feeling uncomfortable with its surroundings.

      We often say ‘ataris’ in Younggil’s commentaries and in Baduk TV subtitles, because it’s much less cumbersome. For a book, if it’s to be more formal, it has to be “he plays atari”, because “he atari” simply sounds wrong to any native speaker.

      • YOU, David, may be a native english speaker. But I think the majority of your readers ARE NOT ! And sensei An Youngil also is not :)
        This is why I said to use hane, atari like in may, can verbs, use no -s for he and she. For me, a non native, it’s also complicated that these verbs has no -s.
        Or maybe I’m wrong :)

        • Why stop there? Verb conjugation isn’t the only part of English that is difficult for non-native speakers. We could also drop the “s” at the end of plural noun and adopt a mor fonetik speling sistem.

  46. More than the title of the book, I’d be interested in its format, i.e. if it will be published as an e-book of some form.

  47. Devin Flake says:

    I feel the same way as Drew and Nate but here’s a few titles to toss around:

    1. Jubango! The Inimitable Gu Li vs. The Incomparable Lee Sedol
    2. The Inimitable Gu Li vs. The Incomparable Lee Sedol
    3. Inimitable vs. Incomparable
    4. Inimitable vs. Incomparable, the Ten game series between Gu Li and Lee Sedol
    5. 21st Century Jubango
    6. 21st Century Jubango, the Ten game series between Gu Li and Lee Sedol

    Keep up the good work!

  48. Hi

    thanks for the wonderfull commentary, would it be possible to explore bit more the end of game, after Gu Li resigned? in your commentary you have stated that posible options would be seki or ko, but this might not be fully visible at glance for beginners like me.

    thank you very much in advance

    Marek

    • Younggil An says:

      After black 251, you’ll be able to see the three options on the board. You can click the number 1-3, and see the following sequence towards the ko or the seki.

  49. I actually had to look inimitable in the dictionary to figure out how to pronounce it, and I’m a native speaker. How its broken up, in-im-i-ta-ble or i-ni-mi-ta-ble isn’t really apparent right away. Probably due to the fact that imitable isn’t a very popular word in English either.

    Plus pronouncing the in-im syllables right next to each other is difficult.

    • Younggil An says:

      Thanks for your advice Cat!

    • I’m not a native speaker I’m not having any trouble with either understanding or pronouncing the word. The emphasis is on the second syllable. It’s not more of a tongue breaker than unanimous, anonymous, enemy, or unintelligible. ;)

  50. One of the exciting things about this rivalry is that each man is a different nation’s Go hero. So playing on the national rivalry might be good for the title:

    - Battle of the Heroes: Gu Li vs Lee Sedol
    - Clash of Two Nations: Gu Li vs Lee Sedol

  51. Title idea:
    Dragons – Earth and Sky: Lee Sedol vs Gu Li

    Gu means ancient, and is a very rare surname now – while Li is one of the most prolific names, but came from the lengendary Laozi. They both have deep meaning, and I think are both legendary in their own way – but with very different styles, hence earth and sky.

    Thanks for the commentary! Looking forward to the coming matches.

  52. great idea with the book!

    small typo, move 45: This move shows Lee Sedol’s good sense OF play in the center.

  53. typo, move 101: should be “White’s atari at B is sente.”

  54. (previous comment reffered not to 101 in the game, but in a variation)

    typo, move 138: a work missing in “This tesuji was a very counter.”

  55. Hi everyone.

    This game has driven me mad. Is there any medicine out there for, ‘go madness?’ Either way, I’ll keep on studying until my brain explodes.

    Thanx all.

  56. At move 20, after variation 3B (e5 f5 f6 e7, with the comment “extending here is also conceivable, …”), what would be a likely continuation? Is black sacrificing the three stones f3 f4 f5? Thanks.

    • Younggil An says:

      Yes, black would sacrifice the three stones, and break through to the left side. It’d be good for white, so black would choose A instead of E7.

  57. Drew Heath says:

    Does anyone know how much time each player had remaining on their play clocks? I have not seen this detail anywhere. Just curious!

  58. Thank you so much for your time and effort commenting this, An Younggil-ssi! It became really easy to understand, even for middle and lower kyus :)

    Um, it might be obvious for the professional-leveled players, but it would be very kind of you too explain the 126-129 sequence.. and up to 136. Why wouldn’t White pressure Black firstly with something like Q14 after 129 to “divide and conquer”? Too risky?

    Thank you for your attention.

    • Younggil An says:

      Thanks for your good question.
      White had too weak groups, and Gu had to save both of them. Even if white attacks with playing Q14, black would live easily, and it’d be very hard for him to manage the two groups. In the game, Gu chose to break through to the top instead, and while black reinforcing with 137 and 139, white could attack the top black group first with 140. At the end, all of their tangled groups were alive, but if white attacked improperly, he wouldn’t be able to save both.
      I hope you understand the situation more of the game with my explanation. :)

  59. Bob Gilman says:

    As far as an electronic format goes, you might talk with Anders Kierulf, publisher of Smart Go Books forthe iPad. The great advantage of these books is that the diagrams are live wins which will replay the move sequences there and also allow the reader to experiment with his own variation ideas. (The disadvantage is that these books are only available for the iPad.)

  60. I’m inclined to wait for the end, but perhaps…
    (Searching for) the dream variation
    The Game of dreams
    Insight and imagination

    Dreams because of the sponsor and the players who epitomize the ideals of many aspiring go players

    Have a nice day

  61. Thank you for the explanation :)

  62. Gu Li vs Lee Sedol:
    Gods Of Go
    Superseries

  63. Hi An.
    Move 19 is a nice tesuji,but what’s happen if white F6,I think Black E5,White D5,Black E7,White F2.White is better.
    Thank you very much for commented game.

  64. For the book title, I recommend “Two Immortals”. xD

  65. Eyecatcher says:

    Thnx for the commentary, looking foorward to the book, title maybe something like:
    1. modern times: the lee sedol vs. Gu li jubango
    2. the art of fighting: the lee sedol vs. Gu li jubango
    3. ~ The first “modern” Jubango (?!)
    4. Rivalry till the end: the lee sedol vs. Gu li jubango
    5. The fight of the century: the lee sedol vs. Gu li jubango
    Good luck

  66. Xavier Combelle says:

    Nice comments. Good luck wih your book

  67. Odinsonnah says:

    I suggest this for the title,
    Kiai Rivals: Gu Li vs Lee Sedol

  68. Thanks for the detailed commentary, it’s very interesting and well explained too.
    I spotted one tiny typo:
    Black 29 (variation)
    “White can connect under, to help the marked stones, at anytime with C.” => “…any time with C.” (add a space between “any” and “time”).
    Good luck with your book.

  69. Thank you very much for the excellent commentary, it’s much appreciated!

  70. Hi!

    I just stumbled across your site when looking for tomorrows gu li vs lee sedol game, and it looks really great. I will frequent it as often as I am able.

    Also great job with the commentary.

    I have some suggestions for a title for the book (I did not see any of them previously in the comments):

    Showdown: Gu Li vs Lee Sedol
    Final Showdown: Gu Li vs Lee Sedol
    Last Showdown: Gu Li vs Lee Sedol
    Ultimate Showdown: Gu Li vs Lee Sedol

    Face Off: Gu Li vs Lee Sedol
    Final Face Off: Gu Li vs Lee Sedol
    Last Face Off: Gu Li vs Lee Sedol
    Ultimate Face Off: Gu Li vs Lee Sedol

    Seeing that Lee Sedol have announced his retirement I am personally leaning more to the Last/Final versions simply because there will be no more showdown/face off after he have retired (at least non of this caliber). Regarding Showdown vs. Face Off I am leaning to Showdown simply because it is one word like Invincible, but not similar. But the book can be referenced as Showdown just as Invincible is (I think people will reference it as Showdown even if it have Last or Final in the title as well). Face Off I think is lacking this aspect also I think it is lacking a certain fines. But I think both are strong contenders.

    Just my thoughts on the subject. I am really looking forward to the next game.

    Best regards
    /Daniel

    • David Ormerod says:

      Thanks for the suggestions Daniel and welcome to Go Game Guru!

      I’m glad you’ve found us and hope you’ll stick around to follow and discuss the rest of the match with everyone here.

      • Thanks David.

        I will definitely stick around and partake in the discussions if there is any thing I can contribute with. =)

  71. David B says:

    “Black will cut here and then taking a stone with A, or capturing White’s marked stones in a ladder with B are miai.”

    The comma should be omitted. Also two things that are miai should probably be joined by “and” rather than “or.” Alternative wording could be:

    “Black will cut here, after which taking a stone with A and capturing White’s marked stones in a ladder with B are miai.”

  72. Connection says:

    Jesus, black B (move 39) turned out to be useful.
    Looking forward to your book.

  73. David Britt says:

    Could you consider move 18 to be a cousin of “Make your opponent heavy?” It’s more like “force your opponent to move out.” The intention is the same: make it unacceptable to sacrifice the pieces in question. It seems like a slightly different proverb though.

    • Younggil An says:

      White 8 is to ‘Make your opponent heavy’, and I feel White 18 is a bit different. However, it can be ‘force your opponent to move out’. If you feel it’s similar, you can think so :)

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